mad-user December 2000

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Re: [mad-user] clipping
by David Shin 16 Dec '00

16 Dec '00

"Roberts, Wes" wrote: > > Wow, I always wondered why I saw the winamp graphics equalizer show the > dancing waveform as level and at the top of the range of loudness. > > But these songs always sounded the best. > > Before I read your email I even wanted to know how to make my own songs like > that. > > Should I still do it, (not to point of clipping). It's hard to do it right in software. You can use tools like Cool Edit Pro, which sounds the best, but that'… [View More]

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Re: [mad-user] re: .12.3b pre3
by Rob Leslie 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

"Anthony Airon Oetzmann" <airon(a)gmx.net> wrote: > David, you wrote: >> I have a question though, how does the gradual attenuation work? How >> about something that clips yet isn't continuous, like a cymbal crash? >> And are all those graduations for the setting necessary? I think >> instead of this, a self-adjusting attenuation would be even better. It >> should work at an aggressive level however, and step back or >> un-attenuate as soon as … [View More]

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Re: [mad-user] clipping
by Gabriel Bouvigne 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

There is something I don't understand. Clipping is sound above the maximum > >allowed sound. As the sound of a CD is stored on a CD, and the maximum > >amplitude sound that can be stored on a CD is obviously the maximum allowed > >intensity on a CD, how can there be clipping on a CD, ie the sound of the CD > >exceding the sound that can be stored on this CD. > >That seems strange to me. > > I'll repeat what I sent to Peter. > > You're thinking lossless … [View More]

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Winamp plug-in pre-release 0.12.3b-pre3
by Rob Leslie 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

The third installment in the pre-release series... http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/mpeg/mad-plugin/in_mad-0.12.3b-pre3.zip This version adds configurability to the automatic attenuation, and also fixes the problem with the joint stereo pie graph. I decided it might be better to control the sensitivity of the auto attenuation rather than use a simple hard limit. The default is somewhat less aggressive than it was before (which would correspond to the "Most" setting.) The idea is to … [View More]

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Re: [mad-user] decoding to wav
by Rob Leslie 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

"Anthony Airon Oetzmann" <airon(a)gmx.net> wrote: >> Once a file stops playing the info dialog no longer updates itself. This is >> so the information stays relevant to the file for which the info was >> opened. >> >> If you close and then re-open the info after starting playback again, >> you'll see things have been reset. > > Shure, but I don't close it :). I write the WAV file twice. Once for getting > attenuation and the second for … [View More]

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Re: [mad-user] decoding to wav
by Rob Leslie 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

"Anthony Airon Oetzmann" <airon(a)gmx.net> wrote: >> Unfortunately, the setting is not remembered even when the file is played >> again immediately. Sorry -- this feature is yet to come. > > Ahaa! But it is if you keep the info window open AND have another way to > activate playback. > > If you have the Winamp main window and the Playlist window open, you can > activate the INFO on one and still START/STOP/FF/REWIND the playback in the > other window. &… [View More]

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Re: [mad-user] decoding to wav
by Rob Leslie 14 Dec '00

14 Dec '00

"Anthony Airon Oetzmann" <airon(a)gmx.net> wrote: > IN any case, for all of you who'd like to write mp3 to a WAV file, have the > file all by itself in the playlist of Winamp, decode it once to get the > perfect noclipping signal, then decode it again with that attenuation > setting. Only having one file in the playlist will ensure that that > attenuation setting is kept, since MAD cannot write that attenuation setting > to a file or registry yet(?). Unfortunately, the … [View More]

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re: .12.3b pre3
by Anthony Airon Oetzmann 14 Dec '00

14 Dec '00

David, you wrote: >I have a question though, how does the gradual attenuation work? How >about something that clips yet isn't continuous, like a cymbal crash? >And are all those graduations for the setting necessary? I think >instead of this, a self-adjusting attenuation would be even better. It >should work at an aggressive level however, and step back or >un-attenuate as soon as the clipping stops. What I'm thinking is >something like the concept of variable bitrate … [View More]

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decoding to wav
by Anthony Airon Oetzmann 14 Dec '00

14 Dec '00

IN any case, for all of you who'd like to write mp3 to a WAV file, have the file all by itself in the playlist of Winamp, decode it once to get the perfect noclipping signal, then decode it again with that attenuation setting. Only having one file in the playlist will ensure that that attenuation setting is kept, since MAD cannot write that attenuation setting to a file or registry yet(?). That's the way I do it with modules too. One decoding cycle for finding the attenuation setting, another … [View More]

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Re: [mad-user] Winamp plug-in pre-release 0.12.3b-pre2
by Rob Leslie 13 Dec '00

13 Dec '00

"Gabriel Bouvigne" <bouvigne(a)mp3-tech.org> wrote: > Nice looking stats. > There is a little problem with the file I sent you. Play it and look a the > stats: suddendly there is a 100% use of IS. Actually, I discovered a bug: the joint stereo graph is completely wrong. It'll be fixed in the next release. Cheers, -rob

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