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Audigy/24Bit/Mad Plugin
by Fleetwood Mac Attack 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

Hi, Just wondering if there is a definitive yes/no, on whether the Audigy can be used in 24 bit mode with the Mad Plugin. I've heard of "wrappers" that can be used to achieve this in NT, is there any for XP and possibly Win 98SE? I haven't as yet been able to download one of these files, as the site I was told about has been taken down. Thanks for any info in advance, Jason

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24 bit and alsa 0.9beta10 [linux]
by Karl Ranseier 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Hi, I've a C-Media PCI CMI8738 (model 37) running with alsa 0.9beta10. I realy would like to get 24 bit on the S/P DIF interface. So I do: >madplay --bit-depth=24 music.mp3 MPEG Audio Decoder 0.14.2 (beta) - Copyright (C) 2000-2001 Robert Leslie output: bit depth 24 not available; using 16 Any ideas? Thanks, Karl __________________________________________________________________ Nokia 5510. Verrücktes Design! Toller Sound! Entdecke und gewinne es auf http://de.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ Gewinnspiel endet am 16. Dezember 2001.

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Incorrect Time Detected
by Marcus Kwok 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

I have a VBR file that MAD does not detect the time of properly in the file info box. The file is 23.9 MB, and is about 44 minutes long. However, in the file info box, MAD displays the time as around 20 minutes long. I scanned the file with MP3Utility, and the file seems to be in good condition (i.e., not corrupted). The correct time is displayed in the playlist though. -- Marcus B. Kwok | 338178 Georgia Tech Station | AOL Instant Messenger: SLuGHEAd78 Atlanta, GA 30332 | ICQ: 20039767 http://gtf.org/ricecake/ | ricecake(a)gtf.org

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cdda format type error
by ltiu 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

Hello, madplay --output=cdda 1.cdda 1.mp3 gives me an error: madplay: unknown output format type for "cdda" I'm trying to convert mp3 to cd audio so that I may burn this to a cd and listen to them in my car's cd player. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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NT Drivers with Delta Dio2496 seems to work
by kaiwei 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

Hi all, I *seem* to have gotten the Delta Dio 2496 working under Windows 2000 & MAD at 24bit with the NT drivers 4.1.17.13. The thing is I'm not sure if it is at 24bit because switching between 24bit & 8 bit, I can't really hear a difference. Moreover, I tried to play a 24bit 96Hz wav file on winamp & it crashed the whole system, this problem is repeatable every time. I recorded digitally to a Minidisc & the minidisc was able to record fine which leads me to suspect that it is still at 16bit because the minidisc has a 16bt DAC only. (maybe I'm wrong here?) Is there any way to check if the output is at 24bit? 1 more thing, I'm reluctant to try the wrapper posted here because under the WDM drivers my audio playback keeps having pops & clicks. I've tried almost every trick in the book, disable hardware acceleration to no avail. but right now under the NT drivers, at least there is no pops & clicks! But is it 24bit? thanks for helping. kaiwei

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NT Drivers with Delta Dio 2496 seems to work
by Geoff 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

Just a general pointer, but if you can, try to get the sound card its own IRQ. This solved a couple of minor problems on my Vortex 2 sound card. Geoff

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MAD 0.14.2b available
by Rob Leslie 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

MAD version 0.14.2b is now available. See the CHANGES file in the distribution for full details. In summary... This version adds three new output modules to `madplay': - esd: Enlightened Sound Daemon (EsounD) - cdda: CD audio (16-bit 44100 Hz stereo, padded to CD frame boundary, suitable for recording directly to CD) - aiff: Audio IFF Also, two new options: --bit-depth: select the output sample resolution --ignore-crc: decode frames with bad CRCs Finally, for Win32 users, `madplay' no longer requires any Cygwin DLLs at runtime; the built EXE runs stand-alone using Microsoft's Visual C runtime (MSVCRT.DLL). Also, keyboard controls are now supported under Win32. The MAD plug-in for Winamp has one bug fix and a few other changes in preparation for an ID3v2 tag editor, but no major new developments. The source code is here: ftp://ftp.mars.org/pub/mpeg/ The plug-in for Winamp is here: http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/mpeg/mad-plugin/ Cheers, -- Rob Leslie rob(a)mars.org

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Audigy
by Michael Deinhardt 03 Nov '01

03 Nov '01

Hi Kjetil, the Delta Audiophile is a great card, but I´ve been exactly thinking about those ways you mention: Gaming, EAX Advanced HD, Firewire, huge software bundle for first time users, a bundled game. Again: We don´t want to sell high end cards, we sell for the mass market. And there, those things are more important than 24/96 recording and the like. So, why the doubts? I wouldn´t be in this mailinglist, if I weren´t interested in high-end sound quality and 24Bit playback. But there are thousands of gamers, novices etc. who either just don´t understand our need for sound quality or who just don´t give a damn. Not only due to my job, I always try to understand both sides... Rgds, Michael

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Specific Card
by Kevin Cody Jr 02 Nov '01

02 Nov '01

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 mad-user-request(a)lists.mars.org wrote: > Anything with the ICEnsemble ICE1712 ENVY24 chip does excellent. This > includes the Terratec EWX 24/96 and M-Audio Audiophile 2496 that George > Pantazopoulos mentioned earlier. M-Audio makes several other boards that > have the ICE1712, such as the Delta DiO 2496, Delta 66, > etc. Hoontech/STAudio also has a board with this chip called the > Soundtrack Audio DSP24 Value. I might be beating a dead horse here, but maybe someone can save me some research. I'm looking for something that will just plain pass through the PCM data without any kind of resampling or mixing, over (preferably) fiber S/PDIF. Therefore I don't much care about the DA's, but high quality AD's would be nice. Balanced inputs would be a cool bonus, but aren't necessary. I guess the point I'm making is that I don't want to go the traditional pro audio route, I want top-end home stereo, because for some reason I like the way they simulate five channels from stereo music sources. They invariably give a more pleasing and natural soundfield than two-channel setups in rooms with shitty acoustics. On the other hand, Pro Logic II is good enough for that, so if anyone knows where I can get the following equipment at a reasonable cost, please pipe up: 24-bit variable sample rate stereo D/A w/toslink input A sound card that can feed it * note: i want toslink because the EMI in here is outrageous Pro Logic II decoder with center/rear tone,delay,level controls (3) 100w @ 8ohm mono amps (2) 50w @ 8ohm mono amps A rack to mount all this stuff in Now, given those parameters, if I'm better off sticking with the SB Live! let me know. Thanks, - Kevin

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Audigy
by Michael Deinhardt 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Funny, how this list comes to live when a topic like Creative pops up :-) The Audigy is not capable of playing back 24 Bit - But we never positioned it to do so. It´s not a pure musician soundcard and it´s not a professional studio soundcard. But it´s got the best gaming engine you´ll find anywhere, you get really good sound quality (Roj, mute the Mic input and you CAN get 100dB) and beginners can try an excellent ASIO implementation, Soundfonts, Midi etc. Btw, the drivers are the best we made so far, and I hate bad drivers as much as you. With the 1394 on top you´ll never find a card like that for such a price. Sure there are better this and better that cards but: The Audigy is for the mass market and you all are obviously not our core target group, so why bother with it? I got an Audigy AND a Terratec EWX 24/96 and I love it. Rgds, Michael Creative Labs Central Europe

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